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, victim of a murder/suicide. >>> plus, the twitter firestorm surrounding bob costas's gun control comments following the tragedy. >>> a dream encounter at seaworld turns terrifying for an 8-year-old girl. she says she thought the dolphin she was feeding would bite her hand off and haul her into the water. >>> plus this -- >> i was flabbergasted. i looked at him and said, you can't be serious. i've just never seen anything like it. >> 29 days and counting until the u.s. could plunge off the fiscal cliff. this morning at least one republican is saying it's looking more like that's going to happen. after the plan laid out by the white house. >>> and she helped care for more than 140 children whose parents are behind bars in nepal. now she's got a new title. cnn hero of the year. cnn hero of the year. "newsroom" starting now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >>> good morning. thank you so much for joining me. i'm carol costello. concern this morning that a young woman's death will be overshadowed by fame. by now, even if you're not a football fan, you know the name jovan belcher. you know
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girlfriend and killed himself. nbc's bob costas used the tragedy as a springboard for an anti-gun lecture right in the middle of a football game. his remarks and the fierce debate are just ahead. hi. i'm henry winkler. and i'm here to tell homeowners that are 62 and older about a great way to live a better retirement. it's called a reverse mortgage. [ male announcer ] call right now to receive your free dvd and booklet with no obligation. it answers questions like how a reverse mortgage works, how much you qualify for, the ways to receive your money, and more. plus, when you call now, you'll get this magnifier with l.e.d. light absolutely free. when you call the experts at one reverse mortgage today, you'll learn the benefits of a government-insured reverse mortgage. it will eliminate your monthly mortgage payments and give you tax-free cash from the equity in your home. and here's the best part -- you still own your home. take control of your retirement today. ♪ ♪ >> simply stated, the american people don't want to close guantÁnamo bay, which is an isolated military controlled facil
that. he's considered -- he was brought in to citigroup by, i believe, bob rubin, spent time in the clinton administration. people describe him as a pretty partisan guy. he's much more liberal than geithner, although geithner is a guy whether he's liberal or not personally carried the president's water pretty well. you know, i'm not saying he did a good job, i'm just saying he did not deviate from the president's line. you know, it's interesting. guys like bob rubin when they were treasury secretary, he basically went up against the president. if you read some of bob woodward's books, which i have, i mean, the way bob woodward tells it, bob rubin, the treasury secretary for clinton, forced clinton to raise taxes but used that money for deficit reduction because he believed that would control the economy. president clinton did listen to him. and i'll tell you, i talked to bob rubin about that anecdote where clinton says you tell me a bunch of bond traders control the economy -- i'm paraphrasing -- and rubin said, yes, i am. i asked him about that once a couple years ago, and h
you think went wrong? >> well, it's very clear to me, bob, that the intelligence was right about the threat in benghazi. now, they department know the specific day and the specific event, but all of the threat streams were right. what went wrong were the policy and decision makers at department of state did not make the right security call, and i argue it's gross negligence. there were discussion prior to, to consolidate space in benghazi. we had different consulates -- not consulates but other operations around town. they thought about bringing everything in one place, and they thought that place was so unsecure, they shouldn't do it. now, that decision was made prior to the 9/11 fortunate. that means that somebody was absolutely negligent in not providing the right security to the ambassador and the employees that lost their lives that day. and somebody should be held accountability for that and we shouldn't walk away from that. >> schieffer: well-- go ahead. >> secretarily. we're three months-- nearly three months after and have not aggressively pursued individuals who killed
control took center stage during the half time show of a football game last night. and listen to what bob costas said in response it a murder-suicide over a kansas city player. >> handguns do not enhance our safety. exacerbate our flaws and tempt us into arguments and embracing confrontation rather than avoiding it. and here is what i believe if jovan belcher didn't possess a gun, he and cassandra perkins would both be alive today. stuart: we want to know what you think. go to our facebook page, weigh in, we value your opinion. and a top environmentalist, will a carbon tax will cause the glaciers from melting and temperatures from rising. his response in one second. >> announcer: you never know when, but thieves can steal your identity and turn your life upside down. >> hi. >> hi. you know, i can save you 15% today if you open up a charge card account with us. >> you just read my mind. >> announcer: just one little piece of information and they can open bogus accounts, stealing your credit, your money and ruining your reputation. to relentlessly protectelock what matters most... [beeping.
his - kill his girlfriend and himself. bob kostas tries to use that. >>> and how to make love last. the answer under your nose. "fox and friends" starts right now. >> gretchen: good morning, everyone. oh, the fiscal cliff. i was wondering what makes love last and under your nose it must be a scent. >> or maybe it is a moustachah. what was it a tree falling again. >> brian: you want to hear it again. >> steve: yeah. >> gretchen: it sounds like a horror movie like something up in the attic. >> steve: it is breaking. cliffhanger. i don't know. if the economy falls in the forest and no one is here to hear it is there a sound. yesterday the republicans blame the democrats and the democrats blame the republicans. john had a exclusive with chris wallace. >> brian: chris wallace sat down with jone boehner. >> steve: here is mr. boehner describing the impression at the moment of what tim geithner was trying to sell him. >> i was ghasted and i looked at him and said you can't be serious. i never seen like it we have 7 weeks before election day andepped of the year. three of those weeks are w
and a hat for 38 bucks. >> add a cup of coffee and a hot dog. >> while we use the word trousers, bob pisani is here watching what's good morning, bob. >> happy monday, everybody. did you notice the market. nice rally here. again, the market is demonstrated that it believes a deal on the fiscal cliff is coming. i know. i didn't hear it over the weekend. headline risk was all anybody wanted to talk about on friday. if anybody says that a deal is not happening or it's going nowhere, we could wake up down 15 points on the s&p on monday. guess what? boehner said the deal is going nowhere. now, when i call the bulls on this, they say, bob, they didn't say a deal was off. they just said so far the negotiations are going nowhere. the market still believes that a deal is coming and it's going to be a substantive deal. instead and by the way, geithner insisted on tax rates issues. looks like there may be something happening eventually. we didn't fall apart on the whole thing. even futures weren't down overnight. instead we rally on a little bit overnight on the greek deal and for those that don't kno
. republican senator bob corker of tennessee and democratic senator claire mccaskill of missouri. >>> finally, our special economic roundtable. as both sides battle over the nation's fiscal health, what can we expect from the economy in a second obama term? what is the vision for an economic rebound? >>> from nbc news in washington, the world's longest-running television program, this is "meet the press" with david gregory. >>> and good sunday morning. amidst a lot of partisan rhetoric on both sides, talks on the fiscal cliff are now at a stand still, and the president is back on the campaign trail of sorts. this time to try to win in a court of public opinion for his plan to avert an automatic tax hike for everyone on january 1. that's where we'll start this morning with the point man on the negotiations for all of this. the secretary of treasury, tim geithner. and our roundtable is also here. standing by for reaction, including the man behind the republican pledge not to raise taxes at all, not to raise tax rates, grover norquist. here's here. we'll get reaction from him as well in our roun
and bob shrum. gentlemen, it's great to have you on. because i find that i keep trying to figure through the mind set that we were hearing what is called the mainstream media, where we kept hearing that romney has a really good thing of winning this thing and from the establishment types and then all of a sudden there's an election and there's this other america, some of it was other america in the sense of the book. your thoughts, john? still using terms to sort of diminish or separate poor people, minorities from being of the american electorate, like it's, oh, it's that over there. that's that. >> look, the franchise is a thing that's evolved through american history and once upon a time you had to be white and mail and own property and i think there still is an embedded mentality that those are the only people whom at least make considerate decisions, right? maybe the others should be allowed to vote but they are not thinking for themselves so they are being pulled out of their apartments. others are making the decision for them and they are going along in a way that isn't quite the
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done by the crc. >> so, bob, you say critics like aaa want to kill e-15 because of ethanol? what is your argument? why would they want to kill e-15? >> well, look, there's no evidence to suggest that there are any problems associated with e-15. e-15 has been the most tested fuel in the history of the environmental protection agency. in fact, there were 86 cars tested over three years. the miles driven by those cars are the equivalent of six round trips to the moon. you could not have tested e-15 any more. and the only problems that were found is a couple of deer were killed on the test track. >> okay. let me ask you this, according to aaa -- bob, i want you to tell you whether you believe this to be true or not. according to aa, bmw, chrysler, toyota, nissan do not cover damage under warranty. hyundai, kia, volvo have said e-15 might void their warranties. do you dispute that? >> ford and general motors have warrantied e-15 for 2013 vehicles and on, which is the first year they were able to provide warranty coverage because prior to that the epa did not allow e-15 be sold. prior
and then killed himself, something else happened. a sportcaster that we all know, bob costa decided talk about it. in a big, big venue. he used "sunday night football" to discuss gun control live on the air, but did he use the right forum for his remarks? a lot of people are weighing in, and this man, howard kurtz, who knows more about tv than even people who are on it, is going to talk to me in a moment. [ male announcer ] this is sheldon, whose long dy setting up the news starts with arthritis pain and a choice. take tylenol or take aleve, the #1 recommended pain reliever by orthopedic doctors. just two aleve can keep pain away all day. back to the news. who have used androgel 1%, there's big news. presenting androgel 1.62%. both are used to treat men with low testosterone. androgel 1.62% is from the makers of the number one prescribed testosterone replacement therapy. it raises your testosterone levels, and... is concentrated, so you could use less gel. and with androgel 1.62%, you can save on your monthly prescription. [ male announcer ] dosing and application sites between these products dif
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-- >> bob dole. >> and john mccain today made a plea for bob dole who is in walter reed he wants to see this great moment, a worldwide standard, it would be good for business, but as you pointed out on the daily rundown today, the chamber of commerce supports this, selling wheelchairs -- >> around the world. >> and here, it's stalemate. it needs two-thirds, more than 60. this is a treaty. because it has u.n. attached to it -- >> going to say it's brand, it's about brand. >> at that moment with mccain and john kerry because of foreign relations issue and this is the way mccain sort of gigged john kerry and kerry teased him back. >> thank you very much, mr. secretary. >> thank you very much, mr. president. >> and there was a lot of joking after that. a lot of laughing. >> we should have showed. >> two of them have been close. people forget that the vietnam caucus, as strained as things have gotten in washington. >> they worked hard on that. >> what remains of it. >> with kerry and jack reed and the guys that are left, they're all -- they all look out for each other. >> where do you think
and yahoo! have a business alliance to share and co-produce editorial content and gordon along with bob pisani. gordon will be along momentarily. michael, let me start with you. you say this market's preoccupation with the fiscal cliff is overdone. do you think we go back to the trend and that is that december is a good month on the upside for stocks? >> definitely one of the tail winds. all else being equal, probably definitely a strong point for the market. i think this market is laboring to look through the interim noise. you had decent pmi numbers, with the ism disappointing and i think the market is trying to assimilate all this. one thing i take encouragement from, things like junk bonds, small caps have not been phased, treasury yield has not collapsed. that means the economic outlook is not being downgraded with asset markets the way you might expect if they really feared the fiscal cliff was going to hit. >> we certainly don't think consumers are fearing the fiscal cliff because they keep buying and buying ahead of the holidays. >> bob, let me get your take on this. before you
at the end of the year as a lot of retail investors want to put money to work. back to you. >>> back to bob pisani here on the nyse floor. we're down 30 points. couple of the guys came by the post and said let's see what happens at 2:00. the president is going to take to twitter. if you listen to the sunday talk shows it sounds like there is no movement whatsoever. >> yet it's not killing the markets. it's surprising a lot of people, i think. we're not moving to the downside that dramatically. about even on the advance-decline line. the dow jones industrial average was at a multi-week high this morning as we opened up. we were down 12,500 two weeks ago. so not bad sideways today. not bad at all. i think the concern is the ism number weakened the market baltimore than the fiscal cliff propped up by greece. tech has not had a very good run recently. up today, dell got an upgrade at goldman. sharon talked about gold. it may be that gold has not done too bad this year but gold stocks are not outperforming. again today they are on the downside. this has been a year of buying gold, not so much bu
geithner told bob schieffer any potential deal will have to include a tax hike on the upper 2% of income earners. >> there is no way to raise a meaningful amount of revenue relative to the size of our fiscal challenge by just limiting the value of deductions for the wealthiest americans. >> reporter: he said the biggest obstacle is republicans who refuse to acknowledge that fact. >> there's nothing that stands in the way of that agreement. except for the potential risk that a group of republicans decide, they hold up an agreement because they want to extend tax cuts for the wealthiest that we can't afford. >> reporter: on fox news 2 sunday speaker john boehner was not optimistic. >> i would say we're nowhere. period. we're nowhere. >> reporter: earlier this week house gop members rejected a proposal from the white house that included tax hikes, spending cuts and $50 billion in new stimulus. >> we've put a serious offer on the table by putting revenues up there to try to get this question resolved. but the white house has responded with virtually nothing. >> reporter: if nothing is done a
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snapped. now as the city mourns, sportscaster bob costas goes off on gun control. i'm brooke baldwin. the news is now. an entire town evacuated after a shocking discovery involving explosives. >>> plus, he's on the run. but john mcafee talks to cnn after martin savidge goes on this bizarre adventure to reach him. >>> and joining me live, the ceo of ford, on what he told president obama behind closed doors about the fiscal cliff. n 315 horsepower. what's that in reindeer power? [ laughing ] [ stops laughing ] [ male announcer ] chevy's giving more. this holiday season, trade up to get the 2012 chevy silverado all-star edition for 0% apr financing for 60 months plus $2,000 cash allowance or get a total value of $9,000. anne's tablet called my phone. anne's tablet was chatting with a tablet in sydney... a desktop in zurich... and a telepresence room in brazil. the secure cloud helped us get some numbers from my assistant's pc in new york. and before i reached the top, the board meeting became a congrats we sold the company party. wait til my wife's phone hears about this. [ cellphone vi
's not even bob dole's treaty, although he certainly is a person who has been deeply involved. the vote on the treaty is the right thing to do on its merits. i think that it's important to note that every major veterans' group -- madam president, i ask that the list of the veterans' groups in support be included in the record at this time. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. mccain: i've not forgotten that 36 republicans signed a letter opposing consideration of any treaty during the lame duck, but there's no reason why we shouldn't have a vote on this. the letter says that they would oppose consideration, but we did have the motion to proceed. some may be worried about passing a treaty in a lame-duck session. the argument has no basis in the constitution or the senate practice. since the 1970's alone the senate has approved treaties during lame-duck sessions a total of 19 times. there's nothing special or different about lame-duck sessions. i'd like to address a few of the misconceptions about the treaty that i keep hearing. it's true that the treaty establishes a committee,
up from there. and bob corker the senator from tennessee who was also on "meet the press" yesterday has proposed some legislation that instead cuts $641 million out of medicare. we'll see some scale up in that direction. there are some things that republicans could like in that initial bid. >> let me bring in congresswoman karen bass. so you're hearing all the sides going back and forth but the one thing that everybody seems to just about agree on is that we're not getting anywhere fast. lindsey graham says we're going over the cliff among others. what do you think? >> i don't believe we'll go over the cliff. i do think people are drawing a line in the sand which is a typical part of negotiation like your previous speakers said. i think that everybody understands the consequences, that the president has put forward a plan that would reduce taxes, or maintain the tax cuts for 98% of the u.s. public. and so i don't believe that my republican colleagues want to see taxes go up on 100% but they do need to come to table and counter the proposal. if they want changes and entitlements they
in all of this and that is from bob costas, veteran sportscaster who made some personal comments in quoting someone else. he talked about his own feelings on gun control. i want to play that for you and get your thoughts because we got a lot of feedback on this morning. >> you want some actual perspective on this? a bit of it comes from the kansas city based writer jason whitlock who i always do not agree but today said it so well we may quote and paraphrase from the end of the his article. our current gun culture whitlock wrote insures more and more domestic disputes will end in the ultimate tragedy. more convenience stores and con fromtation will leave teenage boys bloody and dead. they bait us into embracing confrontation rather than avoiding. in the coming days javon belcher's actions and their possible connection to football will be analyzed who knows but here, wrote jason whitlock, is what i believe if javon belcher didn't possess a gun he and casandra perkins would both be alive. martha: what do you think about that? should he have gone there? >> well, he is allowed to hav
governor, bob mcdonald, ohio governor john kasich all dropping by to talk to mr. adelson. ken vogel on politico's site has told adelson and friends he's looking for someone to run with executive experience. that's intriguing. that suggested he might be looking beyond paul ryan, beyond marco rubio to one of these governors. it's also happening on the democratic side, martin o'malley, one of the candidates who for sure wants to run is having a fund-raiser here in chevy chase, maryland, today. then he's going to be out in los angeles this week talking to big funders. another possible democrat, andrew cuomo, your governor there in new york, to be here in d.c. today talking to new york members and senators. >> never too soon to get started on 2016. mike allen with a look at the "playbook." thanks so much. >> have a great week. >>> coming up next on "morning joe" -- >> here we go. final seconds. luck steps. luck, a little flip, donnie avery, he's in! touchdown! indianapolis has done it! >> that is the rookie, andrew luck, engineering a last-second comeback against the lions. the indianapo
bob costas taking a lot of heat after using his segment on nbc sunday night football to advocate for gun control after a murder-suicide involving kansas city chiefs linebacker jovan belcher. listen as he quotes extensively from foxsports.com writer jason whitlock. >> our current gun culture, whitlock wrote, ensures more and more domestic disputes will end in the ultimate tragedy and more convenient store confrontations over loud music coming from a car will leave more teenager boys bloodied and dead. handguns do not enhance our safety. they exacerbate our flaws, bait us in to embracing confrontation rather than avoiding it. in the coming days, belcher's action and the connection to football will be analyzed. who knows, but here wrote jason whitlock is what i believe. if belcher didn't process a gun, he and perkins would be alive today. >> bret: news busters said costas entitled to his opinion but does he have to give it during halftime of a nationally televised game? critics who say political bias turns up in college classrooms have a big number to back up the case. the web site
connell. call al republican senator. right? tom grassley. whatever. there are a lot of people out there, bob corker. i hope stead we keep seeing lindsey graham as if he is the only guy over there. i don't know. i am on a tear this morning. >> he has to have something to do. before the susan rice thing -- >> >> bill: go shopping. >> when i heard lindsey graham talking about susan graham that guy is in the senate? what else could he do? >> good, the war on susan rice. did you make that up? i am loving it. >> bill press is the war on susan rice. >> i will tell you who bill press is this morning, war on john boehner. >> that's who i want to talk to you about. i think it's time for john boehner to get out of the way. just resign. so here is the deal. >> you explain to me. >> you have a bill that will give 98% of the americans a tax cut january 1st. it's already passed the senate. president obama says i will sign it. actually, if you look at t it's not just 98% of americans. it's 100%, up to 250 dollars a year. the only reason that bill not happening is because
a football-related injury. also interesting, nbc broadcaster bob costas during his segment last night used it to advocate gun control, and that set off a debate on social media. a lot of lessons to be learned. sad all the way around. >>> a suspected serial killer committed suicide. in an alaskan jail. israel keyes was being held in the kidnap and murder of an 18-year-old coffee shop worker, but the fbi revealed that he keyes confessed to killing a couple from vermont, four people in washington state, and one person in new york. only the vermont victims had been publicly identified. bill and lorraine currier disappeared in june of last year. >>> also, a frightening incident to show you involving a magician, wayne houchin in the dominican republic last week when this happened. a tv show host dropped the flammable liquid on his head. there is no word yet, though, why it ignited. houchin suffered burns on his head, face, neck, and his right hand. he is now recovering, and doctors say they think that he will fully recover without any scars. hard to watch that though. wow. >>> negotiations on a
and forth. listen to what republican senator bob corker said. >> i think the really discussions around the fiscal cliff haven't even begun to be serious yet and the reason they haven't is we have really not begun to talk about real entitlement reforms and the only way of a true avoidance and until the debate moves to that point there's really no serious debate taking place and i think, by the way, i think over the course of the next week that is where you're going to see the debate move to. >> reporter: and so, there's no official proposal on entitlement reform in this moment but mitch mcconnell, the senate minority leader interviewed last week and talked about some ideas that might get republicans interested in revenue, raising taxes on the table. higher medicare premiums for the wealthy, increasing the medicare eligibility age and slowing down the cost of living increase and no formal proposal but specifics he floated. >> message to both sides, may not be the time to find your spine and dig in. where's the christmas spirit? for heaven's sake, brianna. brianna keilar reporting live fo
bob costas expressed his views on the tragedy. >> in the coming days, javon belcher's actions and their possible connection to football will be analyzed. who knows. but here wrote jason whitlock is what i said. if javon belcher didn't possess a gun, he and cassandra perkins would both be alive today. >> joining me now you always have an interesting perspective on this. we don't know a lot of details. things are trickling in about the person life of javon and his girlfriend here. what are your thoughts on this? >> i think it's a great tragedy that that game was even played. that game shouldn't have been played. the nfl should have stepped in and said some things are more important than football. the time line in and of itself is barbaric. at 8:00 a.m. javon belcher kills kasandra perkins. by 8:10 he has a gun to his head in front of his head coach and time president. by 10:00 a.m. the nfl has already informed the carolina panthers that they need to be in kansas city the next day to play a game, and by 3:00 p.m. the nfl is putting out press releases saying, wait a minute the gam
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, that was you and me and we were driving bob michael and president bush nuts when the democrats were offering them, give us the tax increases now, we'll give you the spending cuts later and we were saying, oh, no, they'll never keep their word on the spending cuts. they'll tax the tax increases. quite frankly, the speaker has a difficult role to play here. he's seen by so many people as the principal guardian of our liberty and of sound economic policy within the context of the majority senate that frankly just think it's good for the country for the government to be bigger. the government is counterproductive to the performance of the rest of the world. >> thank you for coming on. >> i would respectfully suggest that the government is grown too big, promised too much and waited to long to restructure, but it's not too late. and i would also respectfully suggest that both political parties are responsible for that. >> absolutely right. >> we need comprehensive tax reform. and what i'm concerned about is that we're not differentiating between this fiscal cliff, it's the symptom, and the diseas
, what was it? bob corker said that there is going to be $50,000 of deductions and i mean how many people reach that? you know. maybe you. but certainly not the vast majority of americans. and so the idea that this is going to somehow raise revenue it's a game -- it is a negotiating tool and norquist said he would calm down a little bit and not talk about people having impure thoughts as he did the other day then they won't really break his pledge. >> stephanie: right. >> what was it somebody said? i love, there was one guy that said he was going to violate norquist's pledge because his district got redrawn. >> stephanie: oh. >> so he's not officially from that district that he signed for before. that's weasel -- nailers. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: you say the terms of the fiscal cliff debate for republicans are that the only way they'll raise revenue is through the same magical loophole closing that romney ryan lost on. the senate's most pissed off munchkin john mccain said as much. he said i would be very
. the have to find common ground. host: bob is on the line from chapel hill, north carolina. caller: two specific questions. does your trillion dollar increase come from status scoring versus dynamic scoring? there is some growth that comes out of the base broadening. on social security, do you adjust the inflation annually? lastly, a little history. i know the set was trying to do something with the commission in 2008-2009. they fail to pass it. -ba- -- they failed to pass it. the hypocrisy did not go both ways. i think history would help people understand the importance of simpson-bowles. guest: you're absolutely right. there have been several proposals. they are creating a commission that have the authority to come up with a plan. this was a bipartisan bill that was in the senate. it failed. the alternative was the aha president by executive order established simpson-bowles. the leadership in congress soft agreed that if simpson-bowles got 14 members to vote yes then the recommendations would be put up for consideration and some sort of expedited fashion. it became a non issue. the pr
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